We received a following comment on our article "Is Homosexuality Inborn?":
Ask any gay person. Most will tell you that they were gay as far back as they can possibly remember, often knowing they were gay or different or felt attracted to the same gender at the age of 5 which is as far back as I can remember. Being gays IS NOT an action. It's a BORN way of being. Are you still straight if you are celibate? The proof is in the people THEY are the proof because they know if they have always been or not. So thusly, you've been easily proven wrong.Our response follows:
Thank you for your message.
You are right that people have sex-related attractions and fantasies from very early age, and that these attractions can be to members of the same sex, animals, or even inanimate objects. And they also have impulses and fantasies of stealing, and killing. And the natural impulse is to urinate and defecate as soon as one has an urge to do so and in the place where one experiences this urge.
But, as a human person grows up and develops, he/she is taught by the people around it to suppress the various impulses and fantasies, and to behave within certain "socially imposed bounds". And this is why not all people are thieves, murderers, rapists, adulterers. homosexual, etc., but are "straight" (in the sense of following the imposed on them social restrictions). And the ways of imposing such restrictions are teaching by word and example, shaming, inculcating feelings of disgust, threatening and physical punishments.
The fact that some people are "straight" does not mean that they did not have various attractions in early childhood (similar to those that you describe) or never dreamt about stealing, killing or raping, but it just means that such impulses and fantasies have been so successfully repressed and replaced with "social morality", that it has become part of their personality. Just as repressing the desire to urinate until one finds a suitable place appears to be "natural" for most adults, but in fact is the result of being "potty trained" from early age, which included telling, showing, shaming, inculcating feelings of disgust, scolding, smacking, etc. But, by the time they grow up, they forget this period of their early life, and this acquired skill of being "potty-trained" becomes part of their personality.
So, "being gay" as used by yourself just means giving ways to impulses experienced in early childhood and having no inhibitions to repress them, and then accepting such behaviour as "normal", and becoming addicted to it. While "being straight" means having such impulses repressed and following the "traditional social morality".
You also ask: "Are you still straight, if you are celibate?"
The purpose of "sex" is reproduction of the species. And "celibacy" means "opting out" of this process. And, if celibacy were to become wide-spread, the species will be reduced in numbers and even can become extinct.
In the Bible there is a reference to an ancient people called "Onan" (descendants of a man called Onan), who had become extinct due to "spilling of the semen", that is Onanism (masturbation) having become socially-acceptable and wide-spread. And, because failure to use the reproductive organs for their intended purpose leads to weakening and even extinction of human groups, normal marriage is encouraged in most traditional cultures.
But homosexuality (mutual masturbation by members of the same sex) is even more discouraged due to not only failure to reproduce, but also to perversion of behaviour in which a person simulates the reproductive role of a gender opposite to his natural gender. A man behaves like a woman, or a woman like a man.
In recent times, however, sex has come to be seen as a means not of reproduction, but of entertainment. And in those countries where homosexual pressure groups have gained predominant influence in Government and the Media, homosexual behaviour has been legalised and is even actively encouraged and promoted. And the basic assumption of the ideology of these homosexual pressure groups is that homosexuals, whom they call "gays" are "born gay" and are a "persecuted minority" who should be given "equal rights" with those who are "born straight". And you appear to have accepted this ideology and its vocabulary.
And, as far as "asking any gay person", our articles are based on observation of homosexual behaviour at a very close range, for prolonged periods of time, under different circumstances and in different countries.
We have more articles on this subject on our websites, and reading them could help you to develop a better understanding of this subject.
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From times immemorial people were aware that something within themselves drives them to actions the results of which are harmful either to themselves as individuals or to the human group to which they belong, or even to all of the Human Species. And they tried to identify the sources of these drives and to find ways of protecting themselves from these harmful urges and desires.
Thus, in all societies we find the concept of "Evil", and ascription of the source of this Evil to "evil spirits", or "the Devil" (Satan, Shaitan).
These harmful actions were called "sins" (i.e. moral wrongs), and were punished in the sinner's lifetime and were promised to be punished in "Eternal Fire" (Hell) after his death. By contrast, acts beneficial to the human group were called "virtues", and were rewarded in this life and were promised "Paradise Eternal" after their death. But even such combination of punishments and rewards did not prevent people from experiencing "sinful" urges and desires, and they were taught prayers and supplications to help them overcome such evil thoughts and impulses, and, if any sins were commited, to ask God for forgiveness.
These prayers were recited at regular intervals a few times a day, and, whenever one was aware of any sinful thoughts or feelings within oneself, one would recite supplications appealing to God for protection from the "Whisperings of the Devil". And this struggle with the "Temptations of the Devil" continued throughout a person's life. This internal struggle with the evil side of human nature is the essence of all the major religions and has formed the basis of social morality till the end of the Second Millennium.
Towards the end of the Second Millennium, due to obsolescence of some religious beliefs and corruption of religious institutions, religion began to lose its influence, and was replaced with Atheism and Agnosticism. At the same time aristocratic monarchies, in which the upper classes were setting the standards for the rest of the people, began to be replaced with electoral democracies, in which various political parties were seeking to put themselves into positions of power and impose their standards and values on the rest of the population. And, as, in the short term, it is easier to become "popular" by pandering to vices, than to to struggle against them and to promote virtues, the new democratic Political and Cultural Establishment began to glamorize and encourage base human instincts, and use them to place themselves into positions of power. The "role model" of a "Gentleman", has been replaced with the role model of a "Yob". In stead of looking up to "their betters", people began to be encouraged to follow "their worst", as evidenced by the motto: "Don't keep up with the Joneses, drag them down to your level!". And a few generations of young people grew up worshipping "pop-stars" who were screaming obscenities into a microphone and convulsing to the "beat" of cacophonic music. And most of these "stars" were openly indulging in all kinds of sexual depravities and were drug addicts or alcoholics.
Part of this process was the change in the view of the Human Reproductive Process not as a means of procreation, but as a means of entertainment, and the subsequent emergence of homosexual pressure groups. These groups were seeking to make homosexuality socially acceptable.
Today homosexual pressure groups have a dominant influence on the main political parties in Europe and in some states of the USA. The vocabulary of the "homosexual underworld", that is groups of homosexual prostitutes who used to hang around some "inner-city" public toilets, has been adopted by government departments as official government vocabulary. Thus, some government forms contain boxes requesting to indicate a citizen's "sexual orientation" ("gay", "straight", "by-sexual"). Children are encouraged to be "sexually active" (that is to masturbate individually or collectively) from the earliest age, and to discover their "sexual orientation". Thus, one nursery-level child book published in Britain, contains a fairy tale about two kings who "liked each other" and "got married to each other". The obvious "moral" of this "fairy tale" is that "marriage" between two males is "normal", and children are expected to absorb this "morality" from pre-school age. And there are even attempts to make homosexuality acceptable in all the countries of the world. While any opposition to, or disapproval of, this "program" of Sodomization of Mankind is condemned as "prejudice" and "bigotry" by the Sodomitic Establishment.
Promotion of sexual depravity is part of the War on Terror ideology and practice, as was evidenced by the torture techniques used in this war. And, currently, homosexuality is actively encouraged in the armies of the main War-on-Terror countries.
Promotion of homosexuality has also been used in the War-on-Terror propaganda war (spin) to persuade journalists critical of the current wars to stop criticising these wars and to start supporting them. Thus, in the last days of the Blair premiership, some journalists critical of the wars were approached with a message on the following lines: "This is a war against the Evil of Islamic Extremism, but you are against this war. But some of you are gay, or Jews, or both. And the extremists are homophobic and anti-semitic. They are your enemies, not us. You should support our War". This appeal had some partial and short-lived temporary success. But today most of these journalists continue to be critical of the Bush-Blair wars, inspite of their past or current sexual addictions, ethnic origin, and the Blair appeal.
Tony Blair also suggested that the Pope (the Head of the Roman-Catholic Church) accept homosexuality in the Roman Catholic Church, as it was accepted in some Anglican dioceses. But, thank God, the Pope has chosen to seek guidance from God, as prescribed by his Office, rather than from Tony Blair. And Tony Blair, who claims to follow God's Guidance, at the time of his Premiership, promoted such vices as gambling, drinking of alcohol, and homosexuality, as well as wars of aggression justified by false arguments. And all of these acts, according to all religions, are "repugnant to God", but Tony Blair has adopted the stance of "a good Catholic", and talks about his belief in God, and about a "Global Conflict" between "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys". The only problem with this talk of Tony Blair is that "everything he stands for", and sees as "good", happens to be evil from the point of view of all true religions.
And at the time of the publication of this article there are ongoing political campaigns to establish homosexuality as a norm of life, and to make Tony Blair the President of the European Union.
The current Global Chaos and the general spread of immorality, have lead King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to initiate a Dialogue of Religions, and a number of meetings of scholars from various religious groups have taken place. They seek to find a "common ground" and "reconcile their differences". But what is the Common Ground, and what are the Differences?
The essence of Religion, (that is of the Science of Correct Human Behaviour and Government) is to replace base human urges (that is, the Whisperings of the Devil) with rational behaviour beneficial to Man as individual and as a species (that is, with God's Guidance). And this is the Common Ground.
But, this science has developed in different ways among different human groups, and this is why there are many "religions" and sects within these "religions", and this is why there are differences.
Some of these differences relate to the understanding of the World (the religious theories), and other to rituals and organisational structures.
No human group holds the monopoly of Right and Wrong, and no human is infallible. And no human group owns God. But, some beliefs held by humans are right and others are wrong, and some rituals and organisational structures are more effective than others, and still others are just as good, but different, and still others are suitable for one geographical area and unsuitable for other. And it is to the benefit of all, collectively, and each, individually, to seek what is right and what is better on its merits, rather than hold onto, or seek to impose on others, beliefs and rituals merely because they happen to be "ours", even if they happen to be wrong or inferior to "theirs". Nor is it beneficial to anybody to "compromise" and accept what is wrong, to please others, because in such case both the parties will be the losers.
It should also be understood that the present spread of immorality is due not to those who "follow the Devil", but to the failing of the religious leaders themselves (past and present) to seek God's Guidance on the problems of their time and to guide Mankind along the God's Path. It is this failing that has lead to the emergence and pre-dominance of Political Ideologies and the Moral Vacuum which we witness today.
So, for the Dialogue of Religions to achieve some lasting benefits, its participants, should not seek to "convert" the rest to their own ways, because, they happen to be "theirs", but reject what is wrong, and accept what is right and better. And, if their own ways happen to be right while others to be wrong, then they should explain it to the others in a calm, factual, friendly way and with respect to their history, culture and traditions, rather than seeking to impatiently force it on others, or act towards them in hostile ways. But, if the "other" tell that "we" are wrong, "we" should not feel "offended" and become "defensive", or "turn away", or "walk out", but should consider the "accusation" rationally and logically, and, if "they" happen to be right, accept what is right with gratitude, and, if "they" are wrong, then be grateful to the "accuser" for providing an opportunity to demonstrate that "we" are right. In the end there is only one true religion - the Science of the Correct Human Behaviour and Government, and this religion belongs to no man, but to God.